Nu-Metal Discussion

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SPINESHANK ARE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

*insert awesome nu-metal guitar riff here*

Chances are, they're just going to be releasing a metal album, but anything from them is better than nothing.

Mai wrote:

SPINESHANK ARE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

*insert awesome nu-metal guitar riff here*

Chances are, they're just going to be releasing a metal album, but anything from them is better than nothing.

SPINESHANK?! BACK?! AWESOME SAUCCCCCCE!!!!!

I think they'll sway towards Metalcore myself; Santos's range would suit it, and the others could effortlessly slip into a Metalcore groove.

Mitsunari wrote:

SPINESHANK?! BACK?! AWESOME SAUCCCCCCE!!!!!

I think they'll sway towards Metalcore myself; Santos's range would suit it, and the others could effortlessly slip into a Metalcore groove.

I bloody well hope so! I was only saying metal because I didn't want to get my hopes up.

Well done, Mits! Now you've ruined it for me!

But I guess I deserve it after waking you at 7am yesterday, screaming that they were back together.

its been bothering me for ages - what exactly makes a band Nu-Metal in genre?

Really i define it as any group to this sort of style of music that has been released since the new millenium. This however also means we have to consider the likes of Linkin Park and Papa Roach as nu-metal which really doesnt fit. I think the pioneers of this new genre as a whole are more to the likes of Slipknot and System of a Down personally

Skode wrote:

its been bothering me for ages - what exactly makes a band Nu-Metal in genre?

Really i define it as any group to this sort of style of music that has been released since the new millenium. This however also means we have to consider the likes of Linkin Park and Papa Roach as nu-metal which really doesnt fit. I think the pioneers of this new genre as a whole are more to the likes of Slipknot and System of a Down personally

Here's an explanation on Nu-Metal, Skode...

Linkin Park and Papa Roach were the epitome of Nu-Metal back in the late-late 90's and early 00's, but they have now moved away from the genre; Linkin Park completely, but Papa Roach have retained the metal side of their music.

Korn are the pioneers of Nu-Metal, babe, but you're right that Slipknot and System Of A Down have heavily influenced bands who have entered the genre.

I have a sneaky suspicion that we are about to see a rebirth. Not as it was back in its heyday, but there is definitely a stiring of Nu-Metal in the underground.
Spineshank are back together, but I don't really know yet what they'll be doing...but I'm certain it will revolve around metal, as the guitarists and drummer and purely metal musicians.

Also, music channels are playing a lot more Nu-Metal from old bands and covering a few minor bands who are releasing half-genre music, such as rap and metal, etc.

It's been a big wish of mine that Nu-Metal would definitely make a return, but I'm not entirely certain it will. However, I do think that there will definitely be a Nu-Metal influenced genre rearing soon...

Indeed - its probably the hardest genre to discern it would seem. I mean Detones have songs few and far between i would consider Nu-Metal if the sub genre also features say Disturbed but whatever the case may be its my fave genre whether i realised it or not

Like you say Nu-Metal has gone a bit quiet but its still there and bands like Skindred need to get some recognition for being one of the best at mixing such extremely contrasting genres but i whilst i would agree Korn to be pioneers of the genre in such a form in the same way say Sex Pistols and the Clash were for Punk there were some real forefathers for the genre out much longer before that i guess in the shapes of say more modern ones like Cypruss Hill or even colaborations from as far back as Aerosmith/Run DMC.

Still there are some bands i dont know if are classified as Nu-Metal or not for example Rage Against The Machine or Audioslave...as i said its the gardest genre to define an artist in unless they are really friggen obvious

Skode wrote:

Indeed - its probably the hardest genre to discern it would seem. I mean Detones have songs few and far between i would consider Nu-Metal if the sub genre also features say Disturbed but whatever the case may be its my fave genre whether i realised it or not

You're right. Nu-Metal was always a genre I had issues with, even though it is still my favourite genre, but I've learnt to discern who fits into it. The best way to tell is: if a band has a metal sound with elements of another genre, such as rap, funk, grunge, etc they're almost definitely Nu-Metal. If you know guitars, you can also tell by listening to the riffs, as well as the drumbeat. Most Nu-Metal bands have a excellent drummer, who can beat out some of the most complex drumbeats you'll ever hear (but that's also now become a thing in metal too, so it's not always foolproof to go with this).

In my opinion, Disturbed are purely rock and metal, they've never done anything remotely Nu-Metal in their career, I don't think. They just have a different approach at metal with the style of singing they use. Their guitarist, bassist and drummer are definitely metal musicians.

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Like you say Nu-Metal has gone a bit quiet but its still there and bands like Skindred need to get some recognition for being one of the best at mixing such extremely contrasting genres but i whilst i would agree Korn to be pioneers of the genre in such a form in the same way say Sex Pistols and the Clash were for Punk there were some real forefathers for the genre out much longer before that i guess in the shapes of say more modern ones like Cypruss Hill or even colaborations from as far back as Aerosmith/Run DMC.

I'm not a huge fan of Skindred, but I do have a lot of respect for what they do. They refer to themselves as "Reggae Metal", which, back in 2000, might have fallen into the Nu-Metal genre. But, from what I've heard of them so far, they're more metal than anything else.

I think Coal Chamber was the first band to be referred to as a Nu-Metal band, but Black Sabbath have also been credited as an influence for the genre. But you're right about Cypress Hill. They were more sort of "in your face" with the rap and metal crossovers, but it did start long before then.

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Still there are some bands i dont know if are classified as Nu-Metal or not for example Rage Against The Machine or Audioslave...as i said its the gardest genre to define an artist in unless they are really friggen obvious

Rage Against The Machine are commonly a rock/metal band. Their drummer seems more suited in metal but their bassist plays mostly a Nu-Metal sound and their singer Zack de la Rocha brings them into the genre even more. Their lead guitarist has the capability of stretching to both genres. That said, most of their songs are heavily metal, it's just the bassist and the singer that gives them a different edge.

The same can be said for Audioslave, but only because the bassist, guitarist and drummer is the same as RATM. Chris Cornell's singing style is the difference between the bands. They're actually credited as a Hard Rock and I think this is because of Cornell. But my opinion is, they're just metal.

Mai wrote:

In my opinion, Disturbed are purely rock and metal, they've never done anything remotely Nu-Metal in their career, I don't think. They just have a different approach at metal with the style of singing they use. Their guitarist, bassist and drummer are definitely metal musicians.

I would say that Disturbed's first album was most definitely Nu-Metal, though their other albums are arguable.

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Rage Against The Machine are commonly a rock/metal band. Their drummer seems more suited in metal but their bassist plays mostly a Nu-Metal sound and their singer Zack de la Rocha brings them into the genre even more. Their lead guitarist has the capability of stretching to both genres. That said, most of their songs are heavily metal, it's just the bassist and the singer that gives them a different edge.

I've always thought of RATM as Nu-Metal, but looking it up on Wikipedia, turns out they're not. Shucks.

EidonOfTheFist wrote:

I would say that Disturbed's first album was most definitely Nu-Metal, though their other albums are arguable.

As would I, you might wanna tell Kyle that

Knightfall wrote:

EidonOfTheFist wrote:

I would say that Disturbed's first album was most definitely Nu-Metal, though their other albums are arguable.

As would I, you might wanna tell Kyle that

I'd go along with that too, there are a lot of Nu-Metal elements on that album...they've slowly phased out the keyboard-based synths and whatnot though, which I think has hurt their sound somewhat...those dark synths REALLY added to the atmospherics of their earlier work.

RATM certainly does not fall under the nu-metal genre, despite the heavy bass riffs and rap-rock vocals. They were formed in 1991, long before the nu-metal craze was ever popularized and fall much more under rap-rock or alternative metal with influences from bands like the Beastie Boys.

Audioslave is not really nu-metal either, as much as everyone wants to classify any band formed in the late 90's to early-2000's as such. They have more of rock overtones than metal, and are generally considered as alternative rock or hard rock. Frankly, I don't understand why you don't just call them rock and be done with it. It's not as if genre labels define the band.